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What It’s Really Like To Be Pregnant During Radiology Residency!

Dear Dr. Julius,


I am writing in response to the post that I recently saw on the Radsresident.com blog regarding pregnancy in radiology residency. While I commend you for your efforts to assist aspiring radiologists in their search to balance the stresses of training with life-altering decisions such as family planning, I must admit that the responses seem overly simplified and downplay the stresses that one faces while enduring this transition.

Having entered radiology residency with a child, who I had given birth to at the end of my third year of medical school, I certainly am not an expert on the stresses of having a first-time child during this portion of the training. I did, however, decide to have my second daughter during residency training. And, she was born towards the end of my R1 year.  If you were so kind as to indulge me, I would like to add some insight into the questions previously posed now that I am about the finish my R4 year keeping in mind the lessons I have learned along the way.

Is pregnancy in radiology residency doable?

Short and long answer: Yes. Starting or expanding a family in residency is ultimately a choice.  It is doable, but that doesn’t mean, you will not have to make sacrifices. Some days you will feel like a great mom and other days you will feel like a great resident. Every once in a while, you will feel both. Your time will be stretched; your attention will be split. You will have to work hard just like anyone else who has personal issues they are dealing with at home. If you commit though, you can make it work and not just survive residency but also thrive. I would also argue that my children have helped me keep perspective through this all, and I don’t believe I would be as good as I am if not for my desire to show them the rewards of working hard.

Are programs supportive of students who expand their family during residency?

The answer to this question depends but generally the answer is yes.  Most programs have some form of leave for residents. However, this does not mean that the program will pay for the entire time off. The Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) should guarantee that you receive up to 12 weeks of time off if you need/want it, but this does not mean that you will be paid for the entire time. Additionally, the program may expect you to use your vacation time during your maternity/paternity leave. So, consider this when planning.

Some programs like mine have built in time for new parents (both male and female), which is up to 6 weeks PAID leave in addition to any vacation time you want to use up to the 12 total weeks off. However, standards may vary, and the best people to ask would be the residents themselves. As per the NRMP, programs cannot legally ask you about your family plans during an interview unless you ask questions that open the door to this subject. However, this doesn’t mean you cannot probe the current residents about their experiences (and honestly you should).

Are there radiation exposures that I would need to avoid in a diagnostic radiology residency?

As Dr. Julius said, the only potential for significant exposure you will face is during fluoroscopy or interventional radiology rotations. If you find out you are pregnant, you can alert your radiation safety officer and officially declare the pregnancy. Once a pregnancy is declared, you will receive an additional radiation badge that tracks the radiation you receive over your pelvis (the badge goes UNDER your lead). The badge measurement should represent an estimated amount of exposure to the growing fetus.  The most important time to avoid radiation exposure is during the first 12 weeks when organogenesis and rapid cell division is highest. However, you do not have to perform IR or fluoro duties later in the pregnancy if you don’t want to.

I had my IR rotation early on, so it wasn’t an issue. But, I ended up shifting my fluoro rotation to another academic year because I didn’t want any unnecessary exposure. Your program and the chiefs should be willing to work with you. If you feel comfortable talking to the chiefs ahead of time, you may even be able to coordinate those rotations earlier/later to avoid having to cause scheduling changes later on. Of note, some women choose not to declare their pregnancy and continue to work. I know of IR attendings who worked during their pregnancy the entire time. But the point is, it is your right to decide how much potential exposure you will receive. You need to feel comfortable.

Is there a typical year of residency easier to have a baby than others?

I think this sincerely depends on the program and how it distributes residents among services. I would agree that the R4 year may have more flexibility due to elective time. But, R1 year is also relatively light given the lack of call. In my hospital, R2 year is especially difficult and demanding, but the toughest year can vary depending on the program.

I tried to time my pregnancy on purpose towards the end of my R1 year. By doing this, I was able to take advantage of the six weeks of paid leave offered by my hospital. In combination, I was also able to take two weeks of vacation from R1 year and tack it on to 2 weeks of vacation from R2 year for a total of 10 weeks off. I will be finishing on time. And, I did not have to remediate any rotations except the few weeks of fluoroscopy I missed during an R4 elective.

Timing is not always doable, and you may experience stresses related to just trying to get pregnant during training – just something to keep in mind. I even met a girl last year who was eight months pregnant while taking her boards examination. She passed. Life goes on. Ultimately, there’s no perfect time to have a child, and the program should help you work through your needs as you encounter new challenges.

With radiology being a male-dominated specialty does this cause strife between residents during maternity leave? (Is there maternity leave?)

I can only speak from personal experience that I had very supportive co-residents. But, I believe this stems from the underlying culture of my program/hospital. I believe that resentment may be a little harsh to describe the sentiments of the other residents. Certainly, if additional/compacted call falls on your colleagues, they may be anxious for your return to mitigate the stress of call.  Not one of my co-residents ever questioned my dedication to the program during or upon my return from my leave. If anything, you may have some challenges with the attendings once you come back. And, you may find yourself having to prove your knowledge in light of a prolonged absence.

I would argue that as long as you are meeting milestones and keeping your major/minor change percentages on par with your colleagues, you should not have to worry. You need to understand, however, that your choice to take time off will require dedication and discipline. Upon your return, you will make up for the time you lost to “catch up.”

How do you decide if a program is family friendly and future-family friendly?

I would advise asking the residents during your time with them on interview day or during pre-interview dinners. Don’t single yourself out, but ask general questions like, “How many residents have families?”; “What’s the program’s family leave policy? Is it paid? Do you have to use your vacation?” As Dr. Julius mentioned, having support nearby or having a supportive partner is probably the most important thing. Radiology residency may be less demanding in terms of physical time in the hospital. However, you will need to read and study during your off time to excel. You will be preparing case conferences during off hours if your program doesn’t give you dedicated time. You will need to carve out time for yourself and your well-being. All this work requires the support of others.

Feel free to allow your readers to contact me directly with questions on Twitter @KVincentiRad.

Thank you for your time.
Kerri Vincenti, MD
Chief Radiology Resident
Pennsylvania Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
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Pregnancy In Radiology Residency

Question:

 

Hi Dr. Julius,

I have a few questions for you about pregnancy during radiology residency that I wanted to know.

Is pregnancy in radiology residency doable?

Are programs supportive of students who expand their family during residency?

Are there radiation exposures that I would need to avoid in a diagnostic radiology residency?

Is there a typical year of residency easier to have a baby than others?

With radiology being a male-dominated specialty does this cause strife between residents during maternity leave? (Is there maternity leave?)

How do you decide if a program is family friendly and future-family friendly?

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Future radiologist

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Hi future radiologist,

I have to say I have been getting some great questions from my audience and yours is no exception!

So, let’s start from the beginning… Is radiology residency doable for a pregnant resident? My quick answer is undoubtedly yes. Many have done it before.

But, let me give you a bit of the more detailed response to your inquiry. It’s not whether it’s doable, the question is, do you want to do it at this point in your life? By no means is it a cake walk.

So, what changes? Typically, many pregnant residents will lay off the fluoroscopy and the interventions that involve ionizing radiation. And, depending on how your pregnancy goes, you may feel tired and nauseous at times. But, most get through the residency just fine.

And, of course, you are entitled to pregnancy leave which I believe is usually three months. Depending on how much time off you take, that may extend your residency a few months. Moreover, the additional time can delay the timing of your fellowship.

Then, finally, you will probably need some help with the kids once you do restart your residency after the pregnancy.

Is it easier or harder to have a baby during rads compared to others?

Comparing radiology to other residencies, I believe it is more doable than some and harder than others. Those long nights with a reversal of sleep schedule can be tough on typical residents let alone pregnant ones. The hospital will constantly bombard you with images with no time to sleep. Psychiatry and derm are some specialties that don’t have those tough calls. But then again you are practicing psychiatry and derm, not where I would want to be!

And, perhaps it is not as grueling as surgery. But, it all depends on what you want.

So, what year would be best to have a baby?

If I had to choose within the current system, I would have to say in most programs the 4th year (after you have passed your boards) would be the best time. It is the least demanding in most residencies (but not all!) Usually, you can fill it with mini-fellowships, electives, and less call shifts than other years (although some have 4th-year weighted call).

Does pregnancy cause resentment?

I will say the following; Whenever you have one person with different sets of requirements from the others, you will have some resentment. Call shifts will increase for your classmates in spurts.  You will have to give them back afterward, so it eventually evens out.

But, in the end, this is a personal decision to make and regardless of what others think it is probably not best to put it off too long because of the increased risks of waiting too long.

Which residency should I choose for a possible pregnancy ?

So, if I were looking for a residency for my wife where she would have the best situation while pregnant, I would say, most critically, pick one near family members that can help out. Next, I would want to find one where the call might be a little bit lighter.  Or, one that has a decent 4th year if that is when you want it. And finally, find a program director that you believe will be able to commiserate with and support you during residency.

I hope this answers some of your questions!

Barry Julius, MD

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Image Wildly!

National organizations that represent technologists, physicists, and radiologists have created programs to decrease radiation dosages called Image Wisely (adult population) and Image Gently (pediatric population). As much as these programs make perfect sense and reduce exposure to patients,  neither program addresses the more pressing radiation dose issue in radiology. Right now, Emergency Departments (EDs) throughout the country have a program that counteracts all of these achievements. I like to call it Image Wildly!

So, what do I mean by that? We, as radiologists, have noticed an epidemic throughout our hospitals. And, no it is not high radiation doses for patients on an exam by exam basis. Instead, we see EDs ordering unnecessary studies indiscriminately. These unwarranted studies significantly increase radiation dose much more steeply than any single exam reduction in radiation dose can achieve. So in today’s rant, I will outline a myriad of factors for the problem. And then, I will identify how we can achieve the goal of reducing radiation dose by decreasing the number of silly studies ordered.

Reasons For Image Wildly

If You Build It, They Will Come

Have you noticed when you either add or replace old imaging equipment with more efficient hardware, the numbers of studies increase accordingly? And, what happened to these patients that didn’t get these studies before the new ED CT scanner arrived? Well, now that the equipment is more readily available to patients, it becomes more convenient for clinicians to order a test instead of waiting to complete an appropriate physical and history to triage patients through the system. But, like many of you, I still believe there is a role for taking a good quality history. It’s the most effective way to reduce exams and also radiation dosage!

Midlevel Providers Automatically Ordering Studies

In some departments, automatic button pushers such as some midlevel providers will sometimes order studies to hasten the final disposition of each patient. The process can become somewhat standardized with any patient labeled with abdominal pain slated for a CT scan. Unfortunately, these formulaic systems do not always work. Not every patient with abdominal pain needs a CT scan. And, the midlevel providers often are just another cog in a wheel run by a larger entity. If only someone would examine the patient well first, the clinician could cancel these unwarranted studies.

CYA (Legal Issues)

Of course, in any discussion of imaging, we need to discuss one of the thousand-pound gorillas, the threat of a lawsuit. Elevated threats of lawsuits lead clinicians to order more studies just to prevent the possibility of “missing” a clinical finding. However, this issue ignores the other complications of imaging- false positives, increased radiation doses, and occasional misdiagnoses. I am a firm believer that the answer often lies in the patient’s history. But, histories are also not perfect. And, how can a clinician transfer the blame from himself? Order a study and make it the radiologist’s problem!

Quantitative ER Parameters (Time To Disposition)

Often, in a busy ED, it takes less time to order a procedure before a patient needs it rather than to have to order a study when she needs it. And, what is the metric that many Emergency Departments use to measure quality? Well, that would be time to disposition! So, what happens? Patients get additional unneeded studies that rack up increased radiation over time in order to minimize ED time. Statistics like this one emphasize time over quality. And, who suffers? The patient, of course!

How To Solve Image Wildly

Unfortunately, I do not have one straightforward answer to solve every problem that leads up to the Image Wildly phenomena. Instead, we need to tackle each reason for the problem individually. Indeed, if you address the legal issues with tort reform that will not correct the reliance of quantitive parameters that many EDs utilize. And, if you prevent the ordering of unnecessary new studies with clinical information systems, you would still have to solve the problem of having mid levels creating formulaic diagnoses of patients so that the hospital can move them through the system more rapidly.

Slowly and deliberately, we need to take a hard look at each of the issues that can cause the problem indiscriminate imaging. Only then, can we significantly reduce radiation dosage of patients and end the problem of Image Wildly!