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An Insider’s View Into The Radiology Residency Rank List

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The ranking process and rank list seem like a black box from a medical student’s perspective. But today, we will shed some light on how the process works (at least in our radiology residency!) Of course, I cannot speak for all radiology residency programs. But, many programs do have a similar process.

So, how does this all work? You will be the proverbial fly on the wall in today’s post. More importantly, hopefully, you will gain insight into what we look for when we meet and what the rank list process entails.

The Basics Of The Rank List Process

It all begins a few days before the interviews take place. Each interviewer takes home a pile of applications to review before the interview day. Of course, we consider the usual suspects- the Dean’s Letter, research, experiences, recommendations, and all the other components of the process (See Cracking The Radiology Residency Application Code!) And all of these factors are weighted accordingly, with the Deans Letter weighted the most in the equation.

Then, we add on our impressions of the candidate from the interview. Based on these factors, typically, the interviewers give each candidate an overall grade on the day of the interview. Why? Because the applicants stick freshly in our minds on the interview day.

Most importantly, however, after we give the candidates this initial grade, we confirm our impressions with the residents. We call this meeting the coffee clutch. (Other programs, I’m sure, have other names for this sort of meeting!) Depending on the gestalt of the residents, we may change that final grade to higher, lower, or to do not rank.

Only then, once we have the residents’ input, does each interviewer finalize the overall grade that the applicants receive. And we place the interview candidates into three primary piles. The first batch is the application pile that satisfies our credential and personality requirements. We like to call these applications the “rankables.” Most candidates fall into this grouping.

For the next category, we call this the question pile. Sometimes, we will revisit these candidates at a later juncture after we have obtained additional information. Other times, we must mull over the quality of the rest of the candidates before we decide to rank them finally.

And lastly, the final group of applications is those that do not pass muster. We place these into the Do Not Rank list (informally called DNR/DNI!) To summarize, these applications are from candidates with inadequate credentials, personality flaws, or other issues that we think would not fit our program’s culture and philosophy.

How Do We Create Our Rank List?

If you remember before, I mentioned that each interviewer gives a candidate an overall grade. And, for any given day, we always have two interviewers. Each interviewer provides a score from 1 to 11, with 1, the lowest possible score (except for DNR/DNI!) and 11, the highest possible score. Subsequently, we sum the score of the two interviewers, representing the candidate’s primary grade. (scores range from 2-24) Most applicants assemble somewhere in the middle of the pack (scoring between 10-14)—of which those exceptional scores higher and those weaker trends lower.

However, we did not entirely complete our work yet! Next, we take into account a couple of other factors. First, folks that submit a thank you letter will receive an additional half point. And then, those that come for second looks will also garner a half point. (We only add points if we did not DNR the candidate!) What is our motivation behind this? We like to add a little bit to these folks that take the time to show interest in our program. If you think about it, it makes sense. Candidates who succeed in our program want to be here. And, thank you letters and second looks show additional interest. So, it makes sense to reward these folks.

In the situation of those candidates squarely in the middle of the pack, these minor half points can potentially make a humongous difference. Since most candidates congregate around the mean, it simply puts you above everyone else in your category.

Submission Time

Once we finish our last day of interviews, we check for and add on any extra thank you letters and second look points to all members of the rank pile. In addition, we revisit the question pile, making sure to call who we need to call, get additional information, and decide whether we will rank these applications.

We add the numbers to create a final ranking for each candidate’s application. But, we are still not done. We recheck the applicant rank list several times to ensure that the rank order makes sense and we have not made any other errors. And then finally, we input the numbers directly into the computer on the NRMP website.

Final Thoughts

Well, that’s about it. Nothing earth-shattering! No system is perfect. But in my biased view, the process seems logical and fair. I like to think that we do a decent job with our information.

Most importantly, the proof is in the pudding. When I realize the great residents we have accepted over my tenure as Associate Residency Director using our ranking process, it has paid dividends over time. Our residents have been fantastic!

 

 

 

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Cracking the Radiology Residency Application Code

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Most medical students and residents do not have an insider’s insight into radiology residency and fellowship application and interview processes. Even worse, misleading advice and rumors cloud the process. One needs only to look at the average student or residency forum to see numerous conflicting stories and statements.

Only someone actively involved in the process can understand what you need to know when applying for a radiology residency. So, thankfully, you have come to the right post. I have looked at thousands of applications and interviewed hundreds of residents for positions in our program as associate program director. So, I will help you out by delving into the depths of the radiology residency application process. This article will give you the basics of what you need to know.

The Application

We could go through the application in one of many ways. But, I think the best way is to go through the different parts of the application from most to least important. This way, you will not squander your energy on the small stuff!

The Dean’s Letter

Few sections of the application genuinely differentiate one applicant from another. Dean’s letters happen to be one of those items. The reason for that: you will receive comments from attendings, residents, nurses, technologists, and secretaries that may say something negative. I can’t tell you how often we have parsed an entire application with glowing positives until we arrive at the Dean’s letter. And, then we receive coded messages in the letter, such as: was very shy during the rotation, but did see some improvement. Or, this resident was very independent. However, he did not seek help when presented with a challenging patient care issue. And so forth.

Additionally, the Dean’s letter is the only document (other than the boards) that compares the applicants to their classmates. Most medical schools have buzzwords indicating the residents’ rank in their class. Each one is different, but typically it allows insight into which quartile the resident resides.

Can You Do Anything About The Dean’s Letter?

Ok, so you have your Dean’s letter written in “stone.” And, at some institutions, you may hear that administrators say you cannot change the Dean’s letter. But usually, at the bare minimum, you can check the Dean’s letter. All medical students applying for a residency should scan their Dean’s Letter before sending out the application. I have seen Dean’s letters sent on behalf of medical schools with the wrong applicant’s information!

At other institutions, you can look at your letter before application time and potentially modify the document. If that is the case, you should undoubtedly check it for any hostile or questionable comments. And then, if possible, confront the department/person that wrote the statement. Ask if they could redact or modify it. If the writer is truthful, the person may decide to leave it there. But an attempt should be made, as this one negative comment can make the difference between high, low, or no ranking on a program’s rank list. Not infrequently, the admissions committees will obsess over one questionable comment. They will often spend countless painful hours perseverating over these “minor details.”

The institution may not allow you to look at the Dean’s letter at a few medical schools. But the school may allow your mentor or a faculty member to look at the document and possibly edit it for corrections. I can’t emphasize enough how important it is to increase your odds of being accepted to the residency of your choice.

The Boards/USMLE

Why are the boards important? Well, the boards/USMLE assess the ability of a future resident to pass the radiology certification examinations. We have noticed a strong correlation between lower board scores and difficulty passing the new core exam in our program. So, similar to our program, most programs take the USMLE score very seriously.

In addition, programs use board scores more as a baseline cutoff. Once you score higher than that baseline, it doesn’t factor much into the ranking equations. On the other hand, unless extenuating circumstances exist, failing and low scores usually place the application in the deny pile.

What About COMLEX?

For those of you that are D.O. medical school applicants, I recommend that you take the USMLE in addition to the COMLEX examination. Many radiology programs are unsure of the significance of COMLEX scores and don’t know how to factor the scores into the ranking equations/cutoffs. Applications with COMLEX scores alone may get thrown out of the interview pile entirely.

Gamesmanship

Even with all these factors, you can use some gamesmanship when it comes to the boards. If you have done very well in the step 1 boards, often, you may be able to get away with just sending those scores alone. You may want to delay taking step 2 USMLE. With high USMLE Step 1 scores, USMLE step 2 scores can only hurt you if they are lower. Of course, all this gamesmanship will disappear when the scores no longer exist on Step 1. At that point, Step 2 scores will most likely replace the outcomes on Step 1.

Finally, most programs look for/expect improvement from step 1 to step 2, especially with borderline step 1 scores. So be careful and take the step 2 boards very seriously. Invest in a review course if you need to.

Research

Nowadays, research can become a significant factor in getting an interview in a residency program. What is the reason for that? ACGME guidelines mandate that accredited radiology residencies have specific radiology research requirements for residents before graduating. Knowing that a resident has completed multiple quality research projects means that a resident can work more independently completing research projects. This knowledge of research reduces the burdens upon the department.

Furthermore, radiology research may demonstrate significant interest in the field. And, it provides an avenue for discussion during interviews later on in the process. We often look at an application, saying it’s pretty good, but the resident hasn’t completed any research. That may take the application down a few rungs.

Bottom line, though. It won’t take you entirely out of the running for getting a spot. However, it can be a significant asset in some situations.

Extracurricular activities

We look for two big red flags to avoid on this section of your application: those applicants that emphasize that they have participated in every extracurricular activity under the sun and those applicants who write down almost nothing. A resident who participates in everything suggests that he lacks focus, never investigating or accomplishing tasks in depth. On the other hand, a resident that engages in nothing but school tends not to be well rounded. These residents may not have outlets to disperse their frustrations during their four years of training. A residency director does not like having frustrated residents!

Impressive Extracurriculars

So what are some activities that impress the admission committee? : Interesting extracurriculars that show leadership potential, activities that demonstrate a depth of involvement, and activities that offer an ability to handle stressful situations and function independently. Some of the special extracurriculars that stand out in my mind that meet these criteria would be a student that started a Subway franchise successfully from scratch and made it into a big business, a student that participated in the Olympics, and a student that lobbied for Congress. These are people that tend to climb the rank list higher because their extracurriculars were memorable.

Not So Memorable Extracurriculars

What are some extracurriculars that don’t add much to the application? Those activities that everyone else does and do not suggest leadership potential. In radiology, those would include participating in a radiology club (Big deal!), participating in health fairs (Every medical student does it), and teaching inner-city kids (We see it all the time as part of medical school curricula!) Not that these activities are harmful, but they don’t add much at all to your application. My recommendation to you: find something you enjoy, hopefully, something unique, and stick with it during your four years of medical school training!

Recommendations

Admissions committees like to make a big deal about recommendations. You’ll undoubtedly hear that you need an excellent letter to get into a great program. But honestly, if you ask someone for a recommendation, it is unusual to find someone who will write you a nasty one. Students are going to ask attending physicians that like them. On the other hand, although rare, we see a “bad” recommendation as a significant red flag. It often means the resident that obtained the letter has a poor emotional intelligence quotient. Or she couldn’t find one attending that liked them- both significant issues!!!

Like the rare bad recommendation, great recommendations that raise the application within the pile to a higher rank are also unusual. For the most part, this type of recommendation stems from well-known entities that want the person in their program. Or perhaps, it comes from a close colleague that the radiology admissions committee implicitly trusts.

Recommendations rank relatively low in the application influence equation given the rare ability to change the application disposition.

The Personal Statement

Finally, I would like to talk about the item that medical students often perseverate on the most: the personal statement. The personal statement seldom helps an applicant and can occasionally hurt an applicant. After having read over a thousand of them, there are very few standouts. And, almost all of those that stood out were somewhat disturbing. I still remember an essay that emphasized a dead rabbit. It did not have any correlation to radiology whatsoever. I was concerned about mental illness in that student. We terminated the possibility of acceptance to our program immediately!

If I had to say one thing, I would advise you to be cohesive and relevant to your future career as a radiologist. Also, watch out for typos because typos suggest an inattentive personality, not a characteristic you want in a radiologist. Other than that, don’t fret too much about this part of the application.

Summary

Application for radiology is an arduous process with multiple pitfalls. Make sure you concentrate on those items that give you the most “bang for your buck” to send your application higher on the rank list. In particular, put particular emphasis on the Dean’s letter. Check it if you can. Correct it if need be.

And finally, don’t be that student with marginal board scores, no research, dull or no extracurriculars, poor recommendations, and a personal statement that stands out too much. If you follow my suggestions and try not to rock the boat, you should get into a great residency!