Away Rotation in Rads
Question By: Nick
Hi there, first of all great site and info!
So Im an MS4 and decided to do an away rotation in IR at a midwest school which starts in a couple weeks (Im at an east coast med school). My wife will be starting vet school at this midwest school which is one of my main reasons for wanting to do the rotations. Im an otherwise average applicant and this school is somewhere in the middle of the pack. My question is how to approach 1) trying to make the best impression I can in the month (major do’s and don’ts; how to interact with residents/attendings/residency coordinator, etc.); 2) how to approach informing them my wife will be attending school there and I am obviously very motivated to be with her for the next 4 years. Im not sure how to “play” this card. I don’t want to sound desperate even though I really am (who wants to live away from their wife!). Thoughts?
First of all, I would like to welcome you to our website. You are the first person to post a question on this page and it is a great one!!
So, to begin… Let me tell you a story about a resident from another program that rotated through the interventional radiology department who did everything right and a medical student that did an interventional elective that our department never wanted back again. I will start with the radiology resident first. On day one, he got along well with all our interventional attendings. Without fault or complaint, he would share in the procedures with the other residents in our department. He would always do his fair share of consent work (even though considered scut). He got to know each attending and let them feel comfortable with his work gradually enough so that by the end of the rotation they were excited to have him participate in almost all the procedures. He arrived early and stayed late. He went above and beyond when it came to patient care and knew all the pertinent details about each of his patients. And, of course, he was a friendly guy that was easy to talk to. Our department wanted to hire him, except that we were too far away from his family.
On the other hand, we had a medical student recently who was ultra-aggressive. He wasn’t willing to do consents and still tried to get in all the cases. He made many requests from our residency coordinator which prevented her from getting her residency work done. He also argued constantly with his fellow medical students and, unbelievably, the residents he was scheduled to work with. Meanwhile, he had an impressive laundry list of research papers and academic qualifications that dwarfed most other medical student and residents.
When the time came for the medical student to apply to our residency program, I have never seen such an outpouring of violent no votes from attendings, residents, and even technologists! We could not take him into our program no matter what his academic qualifications were.
So for the second part of the question, I am going to assume that your wife will be attending veterinary school at the same site as your desired residency. In our residency program, we really like our residents to have local family connections such as a spouse, parent, or good friends in the area or hospital. We find that residents with significant connections to the area are happier and are less likely to change programs. So, it is a net positive. I would definitely mention to the program director and attendings at your away rotation that your wife will be local and you are really motivated to stay at their program. Of course, you also need to impress upon them that you also like the program and the staff as well. Just make sure you perform like the resident we wanted to hire, not the student who we despised!!!